IGGY POP, AN EARLY “SON OF LEE MARVIN”

Iggy Pop, often referred to as “The Godfather of Punk,” has had many incarnations. He came into the world as James Osterberg, Jr. His father was a WWII veteran and English teacher in Michigan. He later took the stage name Iggy Stooge and then Iggy Pop fronting the band The Stooges. His legendary performance antics pioneered the mosh pit, stage diving, and other less savory events that lead to the creation of punk rock. Now, at the age of 72 he’s practically considered mainstream — well, not quite, but he’s admittedly slowed down a bit during his still high energy performances and recordings.
What, you may ask, does any of this have to do with Lee Marvin or Lee Marvin Point Blank?

The secret Sons of Lee Marvin members (SOLM), both official and unofficial.

It has to do with yet another incarnation Iggy can lay claim to and that was bestowed by indy filmmaker Jim Jarmusch as shown in the graphic herein. I don’t know about the likes of Ron Perlman, Gary Busey and Jeff Bridges (who knew and worked with Marvin in The Iceman Cometh), but my research showed the top row of gentlemen as definitely being charter members. In fact, I was able get the exclusive TRUE story of Lee’s real son Christopher and his encounter with charter member Tom Waits, all of which provided a great finale to Lee Marvin Point Blank.
I recently discovered via a Facebook friend that Iggy’s appreciation of Lee Marvin predates the Sons of Lee Marvin and, quite possibly, that of Jim Jarmusch.
The message and image from Facebook friend Peter Stipe:

The legendary Michigan Theater and young theater patron Jim Osterberg, soon to be legendary himself.

“I thought this photo might interest you. Ann Arbor’s Jim Osterberg and Lee Marvin before Iggy Pop and The Stooges….The Michigan Theater posted it. My daughter works there.”
Cool, huh? Can’t thank Peter Stipe and his daughter enough for this image but suffice to say I have indeed tried. Love seeing my research proven accurate by faithful readers. Makes me wonder if Iggy Pop/Jim Osterberg read my book. Anything’s possible. Until then, enjoy and Semper Fi!
– Dwayne Epstein

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BIOPIC: WHO COULD PLAY (OLDER) LEE MARVIN? PART II

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Okay, gang, here’s Part II of Who Could Play Lee Marvin, but this time around, the discussion concerns older actors who would play the older, more well-known Lee Marvin. Of course, it’s purely conjecture but it’s interesting to note that in the section in Lee Marvin Point Blank in which I consider some of the films Lee might have made, several of these actors do indeed pop up.

One in particular, who would have my vote if he were not 68 years old is the great Tommy Lee Jones. Alas, age has taken its toll on the wizened Oscar-winner, but there are other possibilities.
What must be kept in mind is not only the Marvin look, but the fact that Marvin was 6 foot, 3 inches, posessor of an amazing and resonant voice and one of the most original screen presences ever. Several more enligthened folks than myself have said that for these reasons NOBODY could play Marvin and perhaps they’re right. However, it’s fun to consider the possibilites as seen below….

Lee Marvin, in his prime, as a reference point...

Lee Marvin, in his prime, as a reference point…

To begin with (and again, this list of possible actors for a biopic is strictly alphabetical),

Australian-born rock singer, Nick Cave

Australian-born rock singer, Nick Cave

My personal choice, actor Thomas Haden Church

My personal choice, actor Thomas Haden Church

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Sons of Lee Marvin” charter member Nick Cave (there are several others on this list) is an Australian-born rock singer and Bad Seeds front man who is also 6’2″ and is currently 57 years old. The resemblance is striking but other than a few indie films he hasn’t done much acting…..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My own personal choice, as well as that of my girlfriend, is actor Thomas Haden Church. Oscar-nominated for his role in Alexander Payne’s Sideways (2004), Church is a well-known character actor and fan favorite ever since his supporting role on the NBC sitcom “Wings.” He’s the youngest actor on this list at 55-years-old and stands 6 foot even. He also posesses a deep, resonant voice and his resemblance is striking.

Cult director and Sons of Lee Marvin founder, Jim Jarmusch

Cult director and Sons of Lee Marvin founder, Jim Jarmusch

 

 

 

 

Film director Jim Jarmusch may be one of the world’s biggest Lee Marvin’s fans. As the founder of the mysterious organization “The Sons of Lee Marvin” he keeps the flame alive with his fellow brethren and even bleached his hair white to maintain the resemeblance. According to Lee Marvin’s actual son, the late Christopher Marvin, much of what Jarmusch expounds on the secret group is more mythology than fact but it does keep the great man’s name out there. Besides his white hair, Jarmusch is also, like Lee, six foot, two inches tall. I wonder how he did that?

 

In 2011 playwright Nick Zagone mounted a production of his original play entitled, “Lee Marvin By They Name” in the city of Modesto, Calif. Veteran actor Jack Souza — who’s hieght and age eludes me — remains so far the only actor to acutally play Lee Marvin in a dramatic production, hence his inclusion here. Wish I could have seen it as the play itself, as graciously submitted to me by Zagone, is actually pretty good.

Regional actor Jack Souza shown in character as Lee in Nick Zagone's play "Lee Marvin Be Thy Name"

Regional actor Jack Souza shown in character as Lee in Nick Zagone’s play “Lee Marvin Be Thy Name”

Oscar winner Billy Bob Thornton

Oscar winner Billy Bob Thornton

 

 

 

 

A long time ago, I casually asked Lee Marvin’s first wife, Betty who she thinks could play Lee Marvin in a film. Her answer took me by surprise as it was none other than Billy Bob Thornton. She knew Marvin as well or better than anybody so I deign to her knowledge and experience in casting her vote for 59-year-old, five-foote-nine inch Thornton but for myself, I just don’t see it.

 

 

And then there’s singer/actor Tom Waits, also a charter member of The Sons of Lee Marvin. His run-in with Christopher Marvin is documented for the first time in Lee Marvin: Point Blank and it’s a version that makes more sense than Jim Jarmusch’s since Christopher played drums on Waits’ album, Mule Variations. Unfortunately, the six foot tall Waits is already 65-years-old and that famous whiskey rasp could never do justice…..

Singer/Actor Tom Waits

Singer/Actor Tom Waits

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two last minute additions I completely forgot about and was recently reminded of AFTER posting this blog that absolutely MUST be considered and included. Thank you, Barbara and Claudia….

J.K. Simmons

J.K. Simmons

 

Bryan Cranston

Bryan Cranston

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BSOL: THE BASTARD SONS OF LEE, PART I

Bastard Sons of Lee? What the….? That’s what I asked myself when I first heard about it. I often get asked, “Why write about Lee Marvin? I mean, why him? ….And why are you wearing that shirt?” One of the answers has to do with Marvin’s legacy, which is unlike any classic film star I’ve ever come across. Seriously. The bizarre and secretive Sons of Lee Marvin is one thing, which I wrote about in Lee Marvin: Point Blank. The Bastard Sons of Lee?  After all, did John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart leave as many little ‘mementos’ in their wake? I think not. Actually, they’re not really Marvin’s sons. Bastards, maybe but… Anyway, they do indeed exist, and clearly, boast of their illigitmate status, as seen below:

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BSOL-Bumper Sticker

Seriously? Have you seen this? Are there boastful Bastard Montgomery Clift bumper stickers? Ha! I think not!…Oh wait….never mind.

Well, how about this window decal…

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See what I mean? As the eminetly quotable Bugs Bunny would say, “Bizarre, ain’t it?” Clearly, it ain’t your father’s fan club, that’s for sure. In fact, maybe the best way to explain is via this L.A. Times article from the 90s. Click on in to enlarge. Read it. Then we’ll talk. There will be a quiz. Talk to you then….

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